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PostPosted: Thu Feb 11, 2010 2:37 am    Post subject: Midnight Lovers Reply with quote

Hello, this is about losing your soul mate, and then trying to find them in the after life.

Midnight Lovers

Two midnight lovers by the lake
The moonlight dances across the crystal water
I savor the taste from your luscious lips
And softly caress your beautiful hips
Warm velvet skin moves across me

Forever seems so far away
While lying in your lover’s arms

My heart is an elegant cathedral
Exquisite designs of romance
Decorate the walls and the ceiling
Down the hallway, I hear angelic voices
Singing of priceless love

Your Judas Kiss was soft and tender
Betrayed by a seductive Aquarius
With lips blood red and nefarious
Pain and punishment are vicarious

My heart is a brothel
A revolving door of lost souls
Foreign lips and a stranger’s hips
Cold scaly skin moves across me

Whether in celestial spheres
Or circles of the inferno
The concept of forever
Has become crystal clear
Outside of your arms
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 20, 2010 1:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

that was righteous!
I liked every bit of it. Fresh. Great style. Quite an experience.
I'm not an expert but I know good poem when I see one.
Thanks.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 24, 2010 3:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks so much.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 05, 2010 9:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jabble, I think about this a lot.
I have met a few of my soulmates, I am very lucky in that sense.
people that my life would certainly be incomplete without...
But, if we cannot meet some soulmates in this life, there is a joy in thinking that perchance next time we can.

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Jabble, did you meet a soulmate and than loose them?
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 12, 2010 12:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes. I did meet a soul mate, and then I lost them. But not in a bad break-up way, rather we just grew apart. In a sense we were soul mates, but then our souls changed, so we went our separate ways.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 12, 2010 10:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Can a soul change?
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 27, 2010 11:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I suppose it depends upon how you define a soul. Personally, I am not a very religious person, so I would not define a soul in the traditional context, of being a spiritual entity that leaves your body after death, and then is judged depending on how the person lived.

I would define a soul as consciousness, thoughts, feelings, ideas, emotions, and the unconscious mind. So in that context, I think a soul definitely can change. In the case of soul mates, it becomes easy to see how lovers can grow apart.

In my opinion, it's not difficult to fall in love with a soul mate, because there should be a very strong connection and attraction. The trick is staying in love, because complacency and atrophy are agents of time; and time is unavoidable, even for the best lovers.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 27, 2010 11:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Shedding Schisms

Shedding skin at sunset
I succumb to my subconscious
And sell my soul to stimulate
Sullen and subdued senses

Savoring sensations, as I spiral
Into a sea of self-loathing
Where the severed serpent speaks of
The gold within my shadow

Starving for control, I slither into
The sanctuary of self-reproach
Safe from the sacrifice required
To heal the schisms
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PostPosted: Mon May 03, 2010 5:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

jabble524 wrote:
The trick is staying in love, because complacency and atrophy are agents of time; and time is unavoidable, even for the best lovers.


I think if you meet the soulmate for this life nothing will change the color of your lovers soul. Time becomes but a piece of clothing you wear upon your soul.

I wish you would write more Jabble.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 17, 2010 12:09 am    Post subject: Denial Reply with quote

Denial

I feel the cat’s claws, digging into my tongue
When my reflection, asks who I am
I never mourned you
Just fed you to my shadow

Heartbreak led to hedonism
Created a cornucopia of denial
With neatly decorated lies
And cleverly crafted excuses

Disenchanted and desensitized
Desperately clinging to vanity
As insecurity starts to claw through

Speechless
Crawling back to my castle
Where phantom limbs
Caress romantic memories
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 17, 2010 10:12 am    Post subject: Re: Denial Reply with quote

jabble524 wrote:
Denial
Just fed you to my shadow

With neatly decorated lies

Where phantom limbs
Caress romantic memories


J, this poem is just wonderful. Those are my favorite lines. Beautiful...I read it a bunch of times.

"Fed you to my shadow" great Smile
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 17, 2010 5:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I like this very much too.

Quote:

Speechless
Crawling back to my castle
Where phantom limbs
Caress romantic memories


If I was artistic, I would draw this very vivid word picture ....it would be in black and white.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 24, 2010 1:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks. I appreciate you taking the time to read and offer feedback. I am very poetically inspired by Carl Jung's ideas about the unconscious mind and the shadow. In Jungian psychology the shadow can be disowned and repressed elements of the conscious self, and is often represented by a dark figure in dreams. I find it interesting because I do not believe you can simply bury something in the unconscious, eventually it starts to claw through to consciousness and manifest itself. Often I think the answers to conscious problems lie in the unconscious, so one must be willing to journey through the mysterious and strange realm of unconscious, or remain confused and unfulfilled in consciousness. This poem is about trying to create a bridge between the unconscious and conscious realms, by confronting and understanding the often elusive shadow.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 24, 2010 10:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

your words are beautiful.
i read through each and every one of them atleast 5 times.

.. beautiful.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 24, 2010 4:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've just finished reading Robin Robertson's 'Introducing Jungian Psychology', and found his shadow idea very interesting too.
He believed that "in spite of its function as a reservoir for human darkness—or perhaps because of this—the shadow is the seat of creativity."
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 01, 2010 4:01 pm    Post subject: Re: Denial Reply with quote

jabble524 wrote:
Denial

I feel the cat’s claws, digging into my tongue
When my reflection, asks who I am
I never mourned you
Just fed you to my shadow

Heartbreak led to hedonism
Created a cornucopia of denial
With neatly decorated lies
And cleverly crafted excuses

Disenchanted and desensitized
Desperately clinging to vanity
As insecurity starts to claw through

Speechless
Crawling back to my castle
Where phantom limbs
Caress romantic memories


Caress romantic memories...Jabble could you please post more? I've been asking the universe for some more good poetry my way and yours is just delightful. Please?
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 14, 2010 1:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I definitely agree with the idea of the shadow being the seat or inspiration of creativity because it is a river of darkness. In fact, I believe that is often why very creative people often struggle with depression, addiction, or in some cases, even take their lives. Jim Morrison, Jimi Hendrix, Kurt Cobain, Janis Joplin, and Layne Staley all come to mind. Obviously, I am not a psychologist, nor can I speak for any of these individuals, but they all were incredibly creative and talented, yet passed away too soon because of their demons. In my opinion, it is very hard to explore the darker or stranger emotions of the shadow, and balance that with regular life. It is very difficult to turn the creativity of the shadow on and off, and often the shadow crosses into regular life, which causes depression, addiction, etc.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 14, 2010 1:45 am    Post subject: Undertow (Swim Away) Reply with quote

Undertow (Swim Away)

You carved out my heart
But I sharpened the knife
Betrayal turned into control
When you begged for forgiveness

Sacrificed my dreams and desires
Thought I could love you, and you’d change
Enabled with love, while reason atrophied
Second chances disguised as compassion

You could smell loneliness
Like blood in the water

Caught in the undertow
I saw your fin approaching
But didn’t have the self esteem
To swim away
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 14, 2010 5:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

jabble524 wrote:
I definitely agree with the idea of the shadow being the seat or inspiration of creativity because it is a river of darkness. In fact, I believe that is often why very creative people often struggle with depression, addiction, or in some cases, even take their lives. Jim Morrison, Jimi Hendrix, Kurt Cobain, Janis Joplin, and Layne Staley all come to mind. Obviously, I am not a psychologist, nor can I speak for any of these individuals, but they all were incredibly creative and talented, yet passed away too soon because of their demons. In my opinion, it is very hard to explore the darker or stranger emotions of the shadow, and balance that with regular life. It is very difficult to turn the creativity of the shadow on and off, and often the shadow crosses into regular life, which causes depression, addiction, etc.


Genius often seems to be associated with some sort of mental disorder whether it's depression, bi-polar, schizophrenia, Aspergers or whatever. I think their amazing creativity and originality comes from a different way of looking at things and should be encouraged and valued.

Your latest poem Undertow shows a lot of insight.

I particularly like these lines:


Betrayal turned into control

Second chances disguised as compassion

You could smell loneliness
Like blood in the water
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 20, 2010 10:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks. Codependency is a very strange thing. Creatively, I am interested in exploring the reasons of codependency. Essentially, codependency boils down to sharpening the knife, to be stabbed in the back. Yet people stay in those types of relationships. I am interested in the reasons why. Personally, codependency is not a major issue for me, but I have fallen into it from time to time (as I suspect most people have)- and in trying to explore my unconscious, I discovered that I crave control. Not in a sadistic or evil way, but I do like to be in the driver's seat (so to speak). I also discovered that in relationships, if someone betrays you, and then crawls back, there is a brief window of time where you have total control, as that person tries to earn your forgiveness, and prove to you they've changed. That is not the most flattering revelation about myself, but I think exploring the unconscious is about journeying through the darkness to find the sunrise. For example, if I don't realize that about my relationships, how will I ever learn to ease up and let go?
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