'8' - Album discussion

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Re: '8' - Album discussion

Postby Cottonete » Fri Mar 31, 2017 9:45 am

I just listened to the song. I am loving it, surprising bridge, but it really feels like a true Incubus song and that's always a good thing.
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Re: '8' - Album discussion

Postby Jelger » Fri Mar 31, 2017 9:51 am

Listened to it multiple times today, and I really have to tip my hat to Brandon. He's stellar in this song. Lyrics, great. Melodies (especially in the verses), great. Voice, great. As someone mentioned he seems to be using his lower register more, a bit more comfort zone, but that's when I like him the most.

Through all the doubt over the years from live videos where he sounds off or where his voice cracks where it didn't before (granted, usually from the start of the tours), he is proving me and everyone who doubted him wrong. He is doing a great job in all of these songs.

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Re: '8' - Album discussion

Postby The Idler Wheel » Fri Mar 31, 2017 9:58 am

Yes, Brandon's lower register is amazing. Don't get me wrong, I love his belting chest voice and his falsetto, but, man, that lower register..incredible!

On this album, so far, I think he's hit it out of the park vocally!
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Re: '8' - Album discussion

Postby JLynn943 » Fri Mar 31, 2017 10:54 am

I just listened to it on an awful sound system (my workplace's overhead speakers), so not good enough to judge it. Brandon sounded good though, and the chorus is catchy.
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Re: '8' - Album discussion

Postby tingky » Fri Mar 31, 2017 12:02 pm

I did not like State of the Art.
- They used one of the most generic pseudo-uplifting chord progressions in pop music in the chorus.
- Brandon's lower register was nice, but even the supposedly wise Sardy couldn't get rid of his annoying vibrato. It's the single worst singing habit he has picked up through the years that he can't seem to shake off. Not saying vibrato in general is terrible, it's just the execution. So unnecessary and habitual.
- The distorted guitar feels out of place, like they just jammed the thing in there to remind everyone that this was still a rock song.
- I can already see the cheesy music video that goes along with this.

So far - Glitter Bomb was good. The other two... forgettable.
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Postby SmokinTheHerbAgain » Fri Mar 31, 2017 12:06 pm

State of the Art is beautiful, this is shaping up to be one awesome album!!

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Re: '8' - Album discussion

Postby Incubus45TD » Fri Mar 31, 2017 2:23 pm

Really not liking State of the Art. I was expecting not to like it based off the snippet.

I really don't understand how people are thinking these lyrics are next level. They are straight forward and repetitive. I miss the songwriting of say, Made For TV Movie or Beware! Criminal. A mid-tempo song, with a flair of edge that sets it apart from every other song you could choose to listen to. This is just way too safe for me.

That being said, I love Glitterbomb and I'm still going to love this album.
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Re: '8' - Album discussion

Postby torres » Fri Mar 31, 2017 4:03 pm

Lyrics are very accessible and relatable on State of the Art. Brandon isn't going for the obscure story telling he tried on the last album with Promises, Promises and Isadore, or as he has with songs on other albums.

To me, this is an uplifting song about coming to terms with aging and embracing who you are, who you've become, and remembering that regardless of how much the world changes around you, you still have a place in it.

This may seem like too general of a theme for an Incubus song, or maybe the way Brandon wrote about it might come across too cliche, but I think the song was perfectly executed as is.

No rambling, open endedness, overly sophisticated vocabulary, or references that may only be familiar to anyone with the same book collection as Brandon.

However, the metaphors, optimism, and delivery still have Brandon's signature touch. He is still thought-provoking, but this time he is not making people have to work so hard to make sense of the song or appreciate the meaning behind it.
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Re: '8' - Album discussion

Postby torres » Fri Mar 31, 2017 5:05 pm

STATE OF THE ART
You were the first in flight
Now a modern relic
Merely a payphone on a 1 a.m. sidewalk
We're all cast aside and we're antiquated
Right as we start to finally figure out what we are

Look at you so bright
State of the art
You're new, you're young
Your blissful ignorance is everything they like
But the years have teeth and sometimes they bite

Look at you, you're falling apart
Built to spill, you're state of the art
Now look at you, well look at you now

Now do you see that smile?
At the foot of the ladder
Ain't it familiar that was you only yesterday
But this justice feels more like a poison apple
And inevitably everyone will bite into it

Now look at you so bright
State of the art
You're new, you're young
Your blissful ignorance is everything they like
But the years have teeth and sometimes they bite

Look at you, you're falling apart
Built to spill, you're state of the art
Now look at you, well look at you now

I'm falling, I'm falling apart
The state of, the state of the art

Look at you, you're falling apart
Built to spill, you're state of the art
Now look at you, well look at you now

Look at you, you're falling apart
Built to spill, you're state of the art
Yeah look at you, well look at you now

State of the art
State of the art

Look at you so bright
State of the art
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Re: '8' - Album discussion

Postby VTDave » Fri Mar 31, 2017 5:48 pm

Looks about right to me....only thing I think may be off is it sounds to me like "Merely a payphone" as opposed to "nearly", which I think makes more sense in that context, but I could definitely be wrong.

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Re: '8' - Album discussion

Postby JLynn943 » Fri Mar 31, 2017 5:58 pm

I definitely like the song. It's maybe a bit unremarkable, but not everything needs to be. It's a solid, straightforward tune. It's catchy, but I don't know that it's a radio song at the same time.

Glitterbomb is still the clear favorite for me. It's great.
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Re: '8' - Album discussion

Postby trip30418 » Fri Mar 31, 2017 6:12 pm

3 for 3 in my book. I'm really digging all 3 songs so far. I've seen it mentioned on here a few times but WOW on the mix of SOTA!! I first heard it on my laptop and liked it but after hearing in my car on high volume it blows me away. I know mixing can be preferential to listeners but this mix is perfection for my ears. A lot of bottom in the bass but not overwhelming, vocals above but no too far, drums sound amazing, and guitar tone on point. Like everyone on here I've been eagerly awaiting this record and didn't have the highest expectations after the trust fall ep. I don't really like any of those 4 songs, but these rock !

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Re: '8' - Album discussion

Postby Juan. » Fri Mar 31, 2017 6:44 pm

tingky wrote:I did not like State of the Art.
- They used one of the most generic pseudo-uplifting chord progressions in pop music in the chorus.
- Brandon's lower register was nice, but even the supposedly wise Sardy couldn't get rid of his annoying vibrato. It's the single worst singing habit he has picked up through the years that he can't seem to shake off. Not saying vibrato in general is terrible, it's just the execution. So unnecessary and habitual.
- The distorted guitar feels out of place, like they just jammed the thing in there to remind everyone that this was still a rock song.
- I can already see the cheesy music video that goes along with this.

So far - Glitter Bomb was good. The other two... forgettable.


Tingky, bro, I think you should write album reviews somewhere, or at least song reviews. Your opinions are always so articulate.

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Re: '8' - Album discussion

Postby The Idler Wheel » Fri Mar 31, 2017 6:45 pm

VTDave wrote:Looks about right to me....only thing I think may be off is it sounds to me like "Merely a payphone" as opposed to "nearly", which I think makes more sense in that context, but I could definitely be wrong.



Sounds like "merely" to me, too
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Postby torres » Fri Mar 31, 2017 7:18 pm

VTDave wrote:Looks about right to me....only thing I think may be off is it sounds to me like "Merely a payphone" as opposed to "nearly", which I think makes more sense in that context, but I could definitely be wrong.


Nah, u right

I made the edit, thanx!
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Re: '8' - Album discussion

Postby Soap » Fri Mar 31, 2017 8:54 pm

State of the Art is a massive earworm for me. I've only heard it twice and now I can't get the chorus out of my head. Not a bad thing though. Love the lyrical content. I'm very excited for this album.

I'm going to throw an idea out for a video: make an interactive video of just the band playing the song live in studio (because who doesn't love live in studio performances?!?!) where you can select which band member you want to watch.
There's already been a lot of talk about who's playing what in these songs, by being able to watch each band member playing each part of the song would 'pop' a bit more and make the whole tune more rewarding to listen to. Seeing Jose and Ben play especially would be really cool.

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Re: '8' - Album discussion

Postby The Idler Wheel » Sat Apr 01, 2017 6:02 am

tingky wrote:- The distorted guitar feels out of place, like they just jammed the thing in there to remind everyone that this was still a rock song.


Agreed. I feel this is what is bugging me most about the song at this point.

I'm starting to think I would like the song a lot more if it was played acoustically.
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Re: '8' - Album discussion

Postby Jelger » Sat Apr 01, 2017 6:14 am

Yeah, I get that. It doesnt bother me that much, but upon my first few listens that felt over the top for sure.

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Re: '8' - Album discussion

Postby pistolabus » Sat Apr 01, 2017 1:43 pm

Good god, SOTA is addictive. Listened to it the most out of any of the three songs thus far.
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Re: '8' - Album discussion

Postby incuboy2012ad » Sat Apr 01, 2017 3:18 pm

So We've now had new incubus music flowing in for a little over a month now and Im definitely stoked for "8". Nimble Bastard, while being a good song and having some sick moments, left me feeling a little underwhelmed after the premiere. New album release /new tour time is something that I've looked forward to since the Morning View days. Its like extended fucking Christmas for a hard core Incubus fan. I wanted so bad to be jumping up and down with a hard on for the song, but it left me feeling a bit uneasy. However, I finally got "THAT" feeling upon hearing "Glitterbomb". Easily one of the best Incubus songs released in a decade. I FUCKING LOVE IT. Now with "State of the Art", i get a more solid feeling of where they're are heading and Im content with it. SotA is a little cliche with the chord progression, but the lyrics really speak to me as someone who is aging right along with Brandon (Im 3 years younger). Im curious to hear the rest of "Loneliest", "No Fun", and "Surveillance". I know I might get shit for this, but at this stage in the game I want for this band another Number 1 Billboard 200 release, I think Glitterbomb can easily achieve the higher ranks of the charts if its marketed correctly (NB is at #10 right now).Based on the snippets, Gliiterbomb is easily the best track on the album (Single wise and to grab new and old listeners) and seems to not be being pushed by the label enough. Giving it and SotA away as grat tracks and not pushing them as singles is gonna hurt the cycle in my opinion. I live in Houston and Ive heard neither on the radio and NB only once the day it was released. I know these things don't matter as long as the band are happy with the output and the tour rocks, but rock music has been in a major state of despair lately. IMO, Incubus can lead good rock n roll back into existence with this album from what Ive heard so far.


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